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  1. Dr.Dsouza
    Member

    Father spend money on his children to enable them to reach a standered normal life. coz he care for them, child do not ask Father why he us not buying airoplane for him. child is happy with the toy plane.
    i never know from where all the food comes, when i was small i was thinking shop owner gives it just like that, coz my Dad never told he paid for my chocolate.
    it is women demand in the name of child.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. humanbeing2
    Member

    my question is for Mr. rohan who talks more sensible and to the point

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. Dr.Dsouza
    Member

    Kya Rohan, ek din mai patadiya....
    Ok.
    i can give you his phone number. he is in Pune.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. rohand
    Member

    rohand,
    when you were a child. did you consider your father as ATM machine for spending money for your education and expenses??------------------------------------------------------

    I am referring to women who seek alimony from their men thinking that it is their birthright. Child support is different from wife support. Don't ask the same questions again and again.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. blue
    Member

    humanbeing

    can u share ur agony with us?
    is there a chance to live with ur husband once again forgetting the past?
    u seem to be well qualified independent lady. Try to be an example for those who are agitated.embittered.
    try to forgive everything and lead your life peacefully.there are other good and important things in this world than fighting with spouse.

    regards
    blue

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. blue
    Member

    Dr.Dsouza sir

    good sense of humour
    but i think as she has still forgotten her past and moved up in her life so she may get offended.Hope u understand.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. rohand
    Member

    not all women coming from poor family seek wealthy man. nowaday women seek man who are compatible and well settled and also man marry only woman who they find attractive and think they are perfect match. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You have contradicted yourself. You say that not all women seek wealthy men. Then, you say women seek well-settled men. My question is why do women seek well-settled men when they are well-educated and well-earning themselves and when this is the era of equality? When women seek well-settled men, you call it their right. But when men seek well-settled women, you call it "dowry". Isn't this a double standard? Regarding attractive women which men seek, I say assure you that the opposite is also true. Many profile I have come across where women seek attractive men. Don't bring in the issue of looks here. We are debating on issues of money, wealth, roles and maintenance.

    wealth can increase or decrease after marriage. but parents in the arranged marriage want to see their loved one is not deprived of life she enjoyed in her parents house.

    If the parents of the girl wants to see that their daughter is not deprived of a good life, they should educate her well and make her get a good job instead of hunting a wealthy and well-settled groom. Grooms are NOT ATM machines!

    I can take you argument and say that same thing to the sons. Parents of sons are then justified in seeking dowry because they do not want to see their sons being deprived of the lifestyle they enjoyed! Would you agree with that? When a woman seeks a well-settled man, you try to justify it but when a man seeks a well-settled woman, you call it dowry. Is this gender equality?

    upliftmen of women comes into picture when incidences of injustice/crime against women raises.------------------------------------------------ what about the injustices against men? What about the crimes against men? Look at the suicide picture. Men's suicide rate is more than 5 times the number of women. Isn't that an indication of injustice and serious wrong?

    who is stopping man to express his emotions and considered as disposables?--------------------------------------------------------The social norms, social values, social concept of masculinity suppresses men with regard to their emotions, communication. http://www.true-equality.net/archive/2008/05/10/men-are-more-oppressed-than-women.aspx

    It is the society which considers men as disposable and that is the reason it doesn't ask men what their problems are inspite of their suicide rate being much higher. Everytime there is a crime or mistake, the men are the first to be blamed and suspected. It happens in schools, in colleges, just everywhere. Read "The Depths of Male Disposability"
    http://www.pellebilling.com/2009/08/the-depths-of-male-disposability/

    what rights have been robbed from you?-----------------------------------------------------
    The right to express, the right to cry, the right to be empathised and sympathised, the right to equality with women in terms of morals, the right to be free from socially imposed rules of masculinity.
    Men Are Oppressed Too! http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=7e38cf02-4229-4544-ae9f-609a0a327309

    how many woman remarry after separation having child?--------------------------------------------

    You have to file and RTI application for that. I don't have the statistics.

    has her life not ruined?(geniune cases).---------------------------

    Do women only have a life? What about men who get separated and divorced? Aren't their lives been ruined? Your statement of women's only perspective is a glaring example of the male disposability. You don't even think for a moment what happens to the lives of men who are divorced or separated by the woman. You only talk about the lives of women getting ruined. Now do you understand what male disposability is all about? Men don't matter is the underlining statement of our society at all times.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. rohand
    Member

    Father spend money on his children to enable them to reach a standered normal life. coz he care for them, child do not ask Father why he us not buying airoplane for him. child is happy with the toy plane.
    i never know from where all the food comes, when i was small i was thinking shop owner gives it just like that, coz my Dad never told he paid for my chocolate.
    it is women demand in the name of child.-----------------------------------------------------------------

    The last sentence says all! That is exactly what these women are doing. They mix up child support with wife support and say wife support is also child support. The same way as the women and child development ministry is misusing the funds allocated to children's welfare by giving it all to the women's groups to spread feminism and hatred of men.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. rohand
    Member

    Kya Rohan, ek din mai patadiya....
    Ok.
    i can give you his phone number. he is in Pune.-------------------------------------------

    Seems she has found me more colourful [with my emboldened and non-bold texts] and aggressive than you! :)That shows that women also seek good looking men! :)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. humanbeing2
    Member

    Do you consider marriage as a institution? How it is based and arranged is irrelevant once the marriage has happened. There is difference between legitimate and illegitimate relation which is also based on the social norms, social values, social concept. Do you have statistical data ready with you on how many man marry after separation. And how many woman with child marry.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. humanbeing2
    Member

    rohan,

    What is your advice to gulati considering it as a TRUE story.
    What she should do now?
    I would advice her to file cases (without wasting time) for having illigitimate relation and cruelity and child support (with all the proof).
    she should also acquire qualification and take up good job.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. rohand
    Member

    Do you consider marriage as a institution? How it is based and arranged is irrelevant once the marriage has happened. There is difference between legitimate and illegitimate relation which is also based on the social norms, social values, social concept. ------------------------------------------------------------
    Whatever you have stated or asked has nothing to do with the argument that is going on here. The issue is about alimony and maintenance to educated, employable women. And, my point is that no woman should be entitled to it [with exceptions]. Whether I consider marriage as an institution or a non-entity, about legitimate or illegitimate is NOT the issue. Why should men pay alimony or maintenance for having got married? Is marriage a crime for men? It seems so with all the anti-male laws!

    Do you have statistical data ready with you on how many man marry after separation. And how many woman with child marry.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    How does statistical data help here? The debate is something else. Not about how many men or women re-marry. Nobody is stopping man or woman from re-marrying.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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