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  1. Dr.Dsouza
    Member

    Economics says Human want are unlimited.
    that means no one is happy.
    depression is a State of mind and all are born equal
    so both applies to you too.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. humanbeing2
    Member

    good reply i agree with u. so what is justice and injustice?what is a womans place in the society?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. rohand
    Member

    although woman is educated and capable of working she may not be able to earn like her husband because she might not be working after marriage and will be underemployed. if there is a vast difference in income you are still eligible for maintenance. there are judgement in support to it. as the child is minor you will have her custody and he has to pay you child support which will give you some relief.-----------------------------------

    Who is forcing women to sit at home or stop working after marriage? When women are equally educated, it is the woman's responsibility to take care of herself. Infact, in this era of gender equality, the man need not work and has the right to sit at home while his wife can work if she wants to. If there is a vast difference in income, it does not matter. It is the MAN'S INCOME. Not a hafta for the woman! If there are judgements to support such hafta and mamool, such judgements are wrong and can be contested. It is also illogical for an educated woman to seek alimony and maintenance. Afterall, alimony and maintenance were meant for women when they were not given education and were inside the four walls; certainly not for the 21st century woman who has learnt the art of misusing this system!

    why should Indian woman not fight for maintenance if her husband wilfully does not perform his duties as a husband and father and also neglects/illtreats her to such an extent that she is forced to leave her matrimonial house.---------------------------------------------------

    so only the husband has duties and the wife doesn't. This wife has fled her matrimonial home and hasn't she gone back on her duty? How do you know that the husband has not performed his duty? Is the husband here to explain his part of the case? Just because the wife alleges extra-marital affairs, does not mean that she is telling the gospel truth. Moreover, please explain the duties of the wife - not just her rights. Rights come with equal duties. Tell me what should a husband do when his wife takes away his child from his home and then refuses to come back and seeks hefty alimony for having stayed for a few months with him?

    if you are physically raising the child it is his duty to maintain and secure his child's future. (here he has not even shown any interest for even visiting his child)----------------------------------------------------------

    why should the woman physically raise the child? Give the child custody to the man. He will do it. Are men only sperm donors and ATM machines for women?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Dr.Dsouza
    Member

    other than justice is injustice.
    i will tell whats women place is if you answer.
    eating Sh*t in freedom is better or gold in Slavery...?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. humanbeing2
    Member

    Who is forcing women to sit at home or stop working after marriage? When women are equally educated, it is the woman's responsibility to take care of herself. Infact, in this era of gender equality, the man need not work and has the right to sit at home while his wife can work if she wants to. If there is a vast difference in income, it does not matter. It is the MAN'S INCOME. Not a hafta for the woman! If there are judgements to support such hafta and mamool, such judgements are wrong and can be contested. It is also illogical for an educated woman to seek alimony and maintenance. Afterall, alimony and maintenance were meant for women when they were not given education and were inside the four walls; certainly not for the 21st century woman who has learnt the art of misusing this system! -------------------

    what if in laws do not want her daughter in law work as they are happy with the present financial status. or make a home condition non cooperative for her to take up job. and then she faces separation for whatever reason. what will be ur verdict??

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. rohand
    Member

    Gulati has not yet filed 498a/DV. which she cud have used if she wanted..------------------------------------------------------------------------

    the way you women are misusing the law, very soon these laws will lose their meaning. Its like the false alarm being raised which would eventually destroy the trust and reputation of women. Already women have lost it aplenty and have some shame.

    Mr.sgrover1973,
    there are such things happening in the closed doors and not reported. and with the changing times people are coming forward and reporting without fear. Newspaper are flooded with crime against child and woman.
    what if she is saying the truth.what is wrong if we believe her and give advice.---------------------------------------------------------------------- there are so many things that happen behind closed doors very often women and wives indulge in those extras. But you only quote one-sided allegations and make everybody believe that it is all that is. Newspapers are flooded with crimes against women because any allegation by a woman {without proof] is taken as the gospel truth. On the other hand, the crimes committed by women on men is not even reported as our stupid society believes that women are all sitas. No wonder that male suicide rate is much higher and it increases after marriage. I personally know many men whose lives have been destroyed by their wives. Its time for men to fight this nonsense of women empowerment which is nothing but male slavery.

    Married men are twice as vulnerable to suicide due to Domestic Violence compared to married women:-

    The suicide statistics for the year 2009 for India are out as published by the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) – a unit of the Ministry of Home Affairs.

    A glimpse of the figures is

    Unmarried boys – 17738.
    Unmarried girls – 10063.
    Husbands – 58192
    Wives – 31300
    Widower – 2848
    Widowed – 2674
    Divorcee (male) – 635
    Divorcee (female) – 613
    Separated (male) – 2058
    Separated (female) – 1030
    1. Total (male) – 8147 2. Total (female) – 45680

    Ratio: Male : Female Suicides 2009=178 males :100 females.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Dr.Dsouza
    Member

    Parenst should not direct children life, it should be between couples. if son has no capacity to make his own home. and staying with parents, coz his wife is not able to contribute half to build another house then all have to compromise and stay together as per understanding. which mutualy agreed in begining to avoid future tutu meme.
    if women is working, and pays half of hosue hold expensus and staying in husband parents house then she has some responsibility towards her in laws too.
    and she should treat her in laws as her parents and do their things, as in old age they have to mind their own business and rest.
    thats what 21st century as per me.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. rohand
    Member

    what if in laws do not want her daughter in law work as they are happy with the present financial status. or make a home condition non cooperative for her to take up job. and then she faces separation for whatever reason. what will be ur verdict??--------------------------------------------

    Most in-laws today want their wives to work because of high costs of living. If there are some remote cases where the in-laws do not cooperate, its better for the new couple to make a separate house. This is nothing new as it is very common in this generation. Infact, in-laws cannot stop educated women from working.

    The bottomline is that marriage is not a bounty and not for gold-digging by women. There cannot be a hard and fast rule that no woman is eligible for alimony or maintenance. But same time, educated women should not expect alimony and maintenance when they are capable of taking up a job. Men are NOT ATM machines and money spinners for women. Nor are they sperm donors. They are human beings with equal rights and fathers of their children.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. humanbeing2
    Member

    eating Sh*t in freedom is better or gold in Slavery...?

    -freedom is better than slavery. freedom you have choice. it is your outlook whether it is sh*t or not don't you eat pork? what does it eat?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. humanbeing2
    Member

    rohand,

    what is your advice for gulati. if we believe her story and accept that her husband has established physical relation with his bhabhi and not mere allegation and because he lost interest in her and now deserted her and his girl child as he does not want to take their responsibility. what wud you advice her and to the best interest of child and taking into considering the basic human rights.(without misusing law) if she files 498a/DV is it wrong?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. rohand
    Member

    whether girl child or boy child they are raised equally by their parents in the modern times.-----------------------------------------------------

    then why do women seek for well-settled men for marriage? Why are so many men unable to marry simply because their earnings are less? Why are taxes for women less for the same amount of income? Why is interest on loans less for women while interests for women on deposits more simply because the estrogen runs in their blood? Why do women seek rich men for marriage? Its time to alter this and make the feminists accountable for the change.

    Husband who has been working continuously will obviously be in a better position than the wife who has left her job after marriage for any reason or for raising the child. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    If husband is working continuously its because of the stupid culture that we have which expects men to be the protectors and providers of women and society. Not because men love to work and be the money-making machines of women and tax payers of society. Nor does it imply that women can take advantage of this. Who is asking women to leave their jobs especially in today's high costs of goods? Educated women cannot be forced or compelled into anything. They are majors, of sound mind and have the right to vote. Then what the fuss about being compelled to leave job to take care of family?

    one cannot guarantee that she will find suitable job later when she wants to take up job so easily in this competitive job market though she is qualified and competent. she may loose her experience being out of touch in the job market. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    For your kind information, its much easier for women to get a job than a man because of various reasons such as:- 1. Company's policies on gender. 2. HRs having soft corner for women. 3. Social obligations and political correctness.

    don't u think if she had not left her job she wud have been at par or far more better position than her husband.-------------------------------------------------------------------------- who is asking women to leave their jobs in the first place? It is a serious allegation without any base. Moreover, I think if women feel that their jobs would be threatened because of marriage, let them start seeking unemployed men for marriage so that men could be househusbands. Why do women seek rich, well-placed and well-settled men?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. rohand
    Member

    rohand,
    what is your advice for gulati. if we believe her story and accept that her husband has established physical relation with his bhabhi and not mere allegation and because he lost interest in her and now deserted her and his girl child as he does not want to take their responsibility. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Such stories are common place in today's society when women seek to get alimony and maintenance from their hubbies. Such stories create sympathy and our pro-women courts would give whatever asked for and beyond! Strangely, our legal system and society does not make it clear what the responsibilities of a wife are. They are merely talking about the responsibilities and duties of a husband forgetting that women should also have equality in terms of responsibilities.

    I ask you this question. What if this story is false and a cover-up for seeking alimony and maintenance?

    what wud you advice her and to the best interest of child and taking into considering the basic human rights.(without misusing law) if she files 498a/DV is it wrong?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- first of all, both 498A and DV are against the basic principles of law and human rights. These two laws are passed because of vote-bank politics and to encourage the business of extortion. They are inhuman, unconstitutional and against the fundamental principles of law. These laws would be applicable to only illiterate women in villages. Not the educated women in urban areas. Certainly not. 498A and DV are extortion laws!!!

    Posted 6 years ago #

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